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Post by Mechanical Jerk on Jan 27, 2004 9:05:03 GMT -5
I was told that we are on Earth as some sort of test, to see if we are "righteous" to go into heaven. But if god is omitpitent (thats not spelt right  ) then why did he not create us in a perfect image? Surley we all sin at some point, so eve in heaven we will sin, surley this makes the idea of heaven a moot point? |
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Post by joan48 on Jan 28, 2004 17:03:28 GMT -5
Not sure I would agree that we are here as a test to see if we are righteous enough to get to heaven none of us can earn that right because as you rightly say we are all sinners.
God did create the human race perfect to start with but unfortunately that did not last so he sent his son Jesus Christ to die to pay the price for our sins and give us the opportunity to be put right with God and through belief in him and a life lived in an real and genuine attempt to live in accordance with his commandments – i.e. To love the lord your God with all your heart and mind and spirit and to love your neighbour as yourself.- we are saved and can enter heaven. We cannot earn this through good works alone but cannot just live as we want and say we believe and hope for the best. The two should go together.
If we get to heaven there will be no more sin.
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Post by Killer on Jan 29, 2004 9:04:43 GMT -5
In the first place, why to they name god god?
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Post by Mechanical Jerk on Jan 29, 2004 9:14:00 GMT -5
God was a old Teutonic word menaing worshipped or sacrificed i think... It all sort of rolled into old Anglo-Saxon in britian and became God or Goode...
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Post by Killer on Jan 29, 2004 9:22:02 GMT -5
Not being offensive.... when they spell it backwards.... which is what I though the words were named in that way was that there is a story or link to that.
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Post by Mechanical Jerk on Jan 29, 2004 9:28:26 GMT -5
you've lost me Killer. I dont understand what you mean...
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Post by Killer on Jan 29, 2004 9:29:34 GMT -5
To put it simple.... GOD -> DOG ... any link there?
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Post by Mechanical Jerk on Jan 29, 2004 9:34:28 GMT -5
Not that i know of. Their is Sirius who was dog god but that dosen't explain the spelling  The only reference I can find is that their is a passage in the bible (apparently) in which god created a companion for Adam that was a dog... |
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Post by Killer on Jan 29, 2004 9:35:35 GMT -5
Probably from there I guess...
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Post by joan48 on Jan 29, 2004 13:57:34 GMT -5
Interesting question – not sure of the full answer but this is what I have discovered so far.
In The Old Testament God revealed himself to Moses as “Yahweh” (which is some English bibles is written Jehovah) a Hebrew word meaning I AM.
The Jews avoid saying Yahweh out of reverence and substitute “ The Lord” when reading the bible.
“God” is actually a translation of the word “Elohim” which was also used to describe “Yahweh”.
Not sure why so many names are used and quite why God is the one that seems to have stuck , probably came form translations of the original Greek and Hebrew and to make it simpler for people to understand.
Often he is referred to as “Our Lord God” a combination of all names.
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Post by idlebrian on Feb 7, 2004 14:18:45 GMT -5
Man likes to think there is an ultimate judge so the division between the good and the bad can be decided
to make the good feel better. and all the sins they declined were not invain.
If
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Post by Mustapha on Apr 11, 2004 6:48:01 GMT -5
Allah is the one true god.
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Post by hadaso on Jul 22, 2004 16:58:16 GMT -5
Allah is Arabic for "the god". Derived from the Hebrew "Elohim" or from a common semitic origin (the older Hebrew word actually is a plural form).
The Hebrew name that is written in English as "Jehovah" (and is pronounced as if this spelling is read allowed in German) actually doesn't exactly mean "I am". It is a form that combines "was" "is" and "will be" in one word (so it's not a real word, but something combining the characteristics of the past, present and future of the verb "be".)
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Post by Susan on Jul 22, 2004 20:22:07 GMT -5
That is really interesting Hadaso!!
It is nice to see you here... feel free to join if you like!!
Thanks for posting...
;DSusan.
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Post by nolatari on Aug 2, 2004 12:39:19 GMT -5
I really like this discussion.
The bible translations we use and know are commonly translated from ancient greek concerning the Old Testament and Latin for the New Testament. I need to have a look for the word God to find the ethymological explanation. But El as in Elohim or as in Allah means Lord. Ohim and lah I am not sure about but the El also Al part I am sure of. Being a linguist and translator I should be.
And I wonder whether it is a god thing to discuss of God or Allah is the One god to believe in. As this has allways on all boards I have been led to flame wars. As to me it is equal if you call him God or Lord or Allah as in all translations, when properly translated it is all the same.
Nolatari
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) then why did he not create us in a perfect image?
